What Took Tarantino So Long?
According to Christopher Kelly, most of the time between Jackie Brown and Kill Bill was spent working on the screenplay for Inglorious Bastards. While that’s true, what Kelly doesn’t mention is that the whole schedule for Kill Bill and Inglorious Bastards got pushed back because of Uma Thurman’s pregnancy. Kelly is also ‘worried’ about just who wants to see a Tarantino movie these days:
There’s also this question: Who, exactly, is his audience supposed to be this time around? The college kids Tarantino connected with in the early 1990s likely still consider themselves fans. But at this point, burned out long ago on all the Tarantino wannabes of the late ’90s, they might prefer to give their box-office dollars to the more playful and droll Coen Brothers (whose Intolerable Cruelty also opens Oct. 10). As for today’s college kids — will they have even seen Reservoir Dogs, much less care about its director’s motor-mouthed, movie-obsessed aesthetic?
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about 8 years ago
FUCK YOU CHRISTOPHER KELLY
about 8 years ago
First off, I would like to tell kelly that there is no question about QT’s fanbase. I’m 15 years old and i think he’s a fuck’n genious. It’s people like him that fill up the holes in my backyard. J/K
about 8 years ago
what dose QT mean do somthing origanal he constantly rips off much better directors such as de palma, kubrick, argento. and hardley ever gives recocnition to all the shots he stole from de palma for kill bill.Also he says stupid things like nobody likes the who, i mean how arogant dose he want to get!
about 8 years ago
Inglorious Bastards is an old war movie from the 70′s or80′s
about 8 years ago
i do like qt’s movies. but it seems to me that he talks about these exploitation movies he loves, and all the b grade movies like russ myer and H.Gordon.Lewis movies where it is puley about fun and entertainment. but i think personly QT would be to afraid of the critics response.he also claims he dosen’t try to say any thing in his movies, but thats bullshit. he’s constantly trying to make points in his movies, usally pretty obvious one’s.i want to see him make a movie like John Waters or Paul Morrisy or lucio fulci.I just get the feeling he feels that there has to be a little art in it but i think he puts it in on purpose wich there’s nothing wrong with but he denies he does that. and it would be good to see some no name actors in his movies for once,then we’ll see how good he is
about 8 years ago
I don’t understand what the fuck you’re saying “Lou”. Next time you post allow us the courtousy of adding a little thought and coherency to your writing.
First off, plagerism is not something that should be under discussion here. Cinima is yet another form of art, and as all art is created through inspiration. Perhaps the work of other directors inspires something aside from jealous bashing and unwarented critisism.
Sean Owen, have you even seen City on fire? Tarantino’s adaptation (even if it goes uncredited) is nothing but a compliment to Ringo Lam. Reservoir Dogs is an original work, while most might watch city on fire, or possibly the documentary “who do you think you’re fooling” (A film made by a University of Minnesota film student with the arogance to actually pursue an investigation into the topic) and consider themselves an authority on what Tarantino was thinking. The truth that you have been overlooking is this, Tarantino made Reservoir Dogs, he made Pulp Fiction, and he made Kill Bill, and while you may find similarites, you also find a style and attitude that you can’t replicate. The real art is the stuff you can’t copy, If you could simply borrow good material and make a good movie, I’d be having my grapes individually skinned in hollywood right now. BUT thats not the case. Quintin Tarantino put a lot more into his movies than a few borrowed Ideas and shots, thats the reason that City on Fire isn’t Reservoir Dogs, its also the reason that Dogs is a revolutionary piece of Cinema, while City on Fire is yet another bad movie.
Oh yeah, one more for Lou,
“it would be good to see some no name actors in his movies for once,then we’ll see how good he is”
Its unfair for you to demand
Unkown actors. (no name?, you asshole)
While you may catagorize actors into “no name” and Celebrity, you should be thinking in terms of good actor and bad actor, neither of which has any relation to how known they are. Tarantino’s films are drowning in good actors, now where is the point in questioning that?
Those of you who are so pecimistic of Tarantino’s work need to stop and watch the unreplacable enjoyment that I and many others on this site experience on a daily basis, pure cinematic beauty.
about 8 years ago
to ben. did you even read my comment. i mention art. i say that i like his movies.all i’m saying is, when you copy somthing that was origanal and say you made it up, thats wrong and you know it. And yes he has done that. in kill bill there are shots that are taken from De Palma’s Blow out and dressed to kill and when qt was asked about those shots he said he made them up as he went along.And to say that his work is pure cinematic beauty is silly.QT would be the first to say his movies (apart from kill bill) aren’t that cinematic. dogs and fiction were about dialogue and structure and jackie was character development.And what i meant by using no name actors i meant bad actors.Because a hek of alot of Qt’s personal favourite movies have shocking acting and done on almost no budget,but they are still highly entertaing be cause of there content.I just don’t think his movies would stand alone on content.I mean most of the movies that QT showd at his film festival were b grade low buget expliotation movies wich are great but Qt wont make one because he knows not evryone will get it.I just think he should shut up and let his movies speak for him they are good movies.But his writing is kinda cheap he makes constant referances to actors and other movies so the audience knows where he is coming from.Wouldn’t be more exciting if we were unsure.Also dont forget De Palma, Kubrick, Argento, Fulci, Lynch, Solondz and Romero. QT’s good but there are better directors and less arrogant ones.And to those people who like sport or the band the WHO; according to qt where lying to ourselves, (what a dickhead).
about 8 years ago
HEY BEN you notice i never resorted to name calling
about 8 years ago
It does not matter what anyone thinks of his films. I think he makes wonderful films. However, my opinion and everyone else
about 8 years ago
r u kidding me?hollywood is going down,IS FULL OF BLOCKBUSTERS!everything seems 2 be so fucking “same”.Tarantino’s movies are the only ones 2 make an exception!what the fuck?Why can’t everybody see that?Keep on the good job Quentin .Me gusta mucho tus peliculas.son las mejores!
about 8 years ago
ha, Iliana, i agree. After just seeing Reservoir dogs, pfft, Tarantino is on top of his game, i don’t know what they mean by he’s gonna die out, they can screw themselves and there gay ass FAST AND FURIOUS fluff movies. If it isn’t for tarantino, then who would bring out the “REAL” in movies?
about 8 years ago
While Tarantino is obviously the best filmmaker of this time period, time has obviously proven that his fanbase has gone downhill. Jackie Brown opened to a large audience who expected another Pulp Fiction. To their disappointment, Jackie Brown was new and different (in a nostalgic sort of way), which is just the thing that the American public doesn’t seem to appreciate. Kill Bill Volume 1 opened to an even smaller audience and, again, they were disappointed with the new and unique filmmaking style. The comments made by Christopher Kelly are, I’m sad to say, absolutely true. Don’t get me wrong; Quentin is my favourite filmmaker, bar none. But the fact is, the general movie-viewing public are not interested in movies that are true works of art, especially if the artwork pays homage to classic gems in film history like blaxploitation, film noir, spaghetti westerns and kung fu. Anyone who knows anything about movies is a fan of Quentin. You’ll notice that the period before and after a Tarantino movie opens, all forms of media slightly change. Before KB Vol. 1 hit screens, Benihana had their Kill Bill-esque advertising (their website continues to have a Kill Bill style Flash animation…http://www.benihana.com). After Pulp Fiction, Kool and the Gang’s “Jungle Boogie” was everywhere. More importantly, the film choices on cable and satellite movie channels are effected. Never in a million years would films like Death Rides a Horse and Truck Turner get airplay without Quentin’s influence. Like some of the other poster’s on this page, I am also a high school student (dropout, actually), and while I recognize that there are many youths who are interested in Quentin’s work, there’s far too few to make a difference in the number of people going to see his movies. As well, there are far too few in any age-group to give Quentin a license to print money. Those licenses are reserved for mediocre “filmmakers” like Michael Bay and Co. Let’s face it, unless Quentin decides to pay homage to the 2K “Fast and the Furious” type film (which I’m sure he would be able to breathe some life into that shitty genre anyway), Quentin’s audience is probably going to be hardcore fans from now on. As long as Harvey Weinstein is still a fan enough to give Quentin cash to make more movies, I’m fine with the idea that each time I see his movies in the theatre, I won’t have to worry about all the bubble gum chewing teens sitting next to me making noise; they’ll be next door seeing movies like Torque 5 and Scary Movie 8. Sure, Quentin won’t make as much cash, but I don’t think he does it for the money anyway.
about 8 years ago
I get how your saying his movies are losing it because of the society and the way people view movies, but he does make movies for himself, like many have mentioned before (including him), he makes movies for himself, if others like it then great!, but i still get where your coming from. He’s SO different that the case has turned into, not many people wanting to see his movies because there so different, but for some (including me) thats a good thing. And yeah, i’m happy i don’t have to sit next to those teens who watch torque 5 when i see tarantino’s movies.
about 8 years ago
I second that emotion.
about 8 years ago
uh i’m in no fuckin way a college kid from the early fuckin 90′s, and I can’t wait to see what Tarantino produces next. And by the way, ‘Intolerable Cruelty’ finished worst than Kill Bill(which was number fuckin ONE!), so yeah, stick that up your ass and shit it.
about 8 years ago
QT is like a small peg below God, along w/ Sam Raimi and Peter Jackson. College kids my fuckin ass. Im 16, i saw a preview for Kill Bill and said, and i quote “i have to fuckin see this movie”. Saw it..hated it. BULLSHIT I HATED IT. it was fucking AMAZING. The anime sequence alone was worth it. VOL. 2 will be like an orgasm. I loved Kill Bill so much i have to see his other movies. Dusk Till Dawn was awsome, Pulp Fiction was wierd. I expected something different from what everyone said. Saw it again…fucking awsome, True Romance was great. I just want to see Reservior Dogs and Jackie Brown. Natural Born Killers is just a more violent True Romance, right? If its worth seeing tell me. As for that Kely douche. FUCK HIM man. He’s proboly some faggot who sits onhis ass crying over Cold Mountain or Intolerable Cruelty. FUCK THAT shit. Those movies are like a magic marker compared to KILL BILL, which is like pure, uncut cocaine.
about 8 years ago
I love Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, it’s so funny. I’m such a big fan of Kill Bill vol1. I never knew gore could be so hilarious. I’m a 17 yr old Junior in HS and I think Tarantino is The Shit.
about 8 years ago
well you know i hate to say this but she is right. Given the abysmal box office earnings Kill Bill had, the international indifference shown to the burned-out director, the crowds that failed to show up at theaters everywhere, critics throwing mud at tarantino by the heapload…
WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE TALKING ABOUT?
sorry, had to get that out of my system.
Enjoy.
about 8 years ago
I have so far seen pulp fiction (which I can proudly say I have watched so many times it’s probably into 3 numbers), jackie brown,resovoir dogs, NBK’s and true romance, which by the way, when I saw it on TV I didn’t know QT had wrote it but after about 10 minutes said to myself, ‘fuck me, this dialogue is borderline tarintinoesque’ and by the end has convinced myself that whoever had written the film was an absolute legend. when I saw the credits I laughed to myself. I was right.
about 8 years ago
Everybody loves movies. Generation shifts do not change that. Right now, I’m seventeen, and I saw Pulp Fiction when I was about 11 years old. So did many of my friends. Demographics are for advertisments. Tarantino knows that, and so do the people who fund his projects. A good movie is a good movie.
about 8 years ago
true…..inglorious bastards is an old war movie in the 70′s 0r 80′s, but Quentin Tarantino’s “inglorious bastards” is already told that it is not a remake
about 8 years ago
“Lou ” are you a fucking idiot. I’m an actual real film fan , and so I actually realise that directors take styles from movies that inspire them and then alter them to suit certian scenes to make tham more poignent. And as for Tarantino saying that he made those scene up on his own he didn’t. I just saw an interview with him where he states several times how he was inspired by Brian De Palma in many scene (Particularly in Kill Bill v1 when Elle Driver is walking down the hall w/ a syringe and ‘twisted nerve’ in the background. I personally thought it was more Kubrick in A clockwork orange Opinions?). I’ve been addicted to films since i was about five, but I didn’t start apreciating Tarantino ’til I was 14 and I was on a Buscemi binge and I rented Reservoir Dogs. To Kelly, who doesn’t know shit about Tarantino fans, that movie got my attention. After watching hundreds of films (good, and bad) that film got my fucking attention and kept it. Tarantino isn’t a flash in the pan that can be treated like some 80′s teeny bopper idol, he’s a genius that has only picked up more fans w/ Kill Bill v1,2 .
about 8 years ago
Kill Bill is a montage of the movies Quentin Tarantino has grown to love… it’s heavily and honestly inspired and he doesn’t shadow that at all. He said in one interview that he extracted all the things he liked and left out the things he didn’t like about several films genres so towards the end of a project he’s seeing what is to him all enjoyable material. Because in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s there was alot more experimental filmmaking. It hadn’t all been done before. These days, since true originality has been made impossible, filmmakers have to seek some kind of key inspiration and reflect it in their own way.
about 8 years ago
quentin tarentino is the king of all movies he is the person that inspired me to be a director and i think anyone who tries to say otherwise is just a pissed off writer who never made it all seven movies to date are fu*king wicked i have all of them and i consider my self to know alot about movies so i no that he is the shit. i am only eighteen aswell and i think that whovever said he was like a boyband whos audience has grown up just needs to watch his films see his brillance and bow down in ore you rock quentin!
looking forward to inglorious bastards
Quentins number one fan by far
about 8 years ago
About the college kids: if they haven’t seen all of QT’s films…they’re missing out. I’m only 16, and I’ve already seen all of his movies at least twice! I don’t understand while anyone would not enjoy his films, even though they are somewhat controversial. I enjoy them so much; they make going to the movies and spending $25.00 for popcorn, Twizzlers, and a Diet Coke worh it!